Salvation and Why did Jesus Have to Die?

What is sins based on the bible? :

To Those Commit sins / Consequences of that sins:

It is no longer  acceptable to god even he is praying.

Sins makes our relationship to god separated.

What's the payment for our sin?:

Is death???

That's not so bad we all die…

It's not a biological death.

The death is a second death.. :

So recap:

[1. Committing sin or breaking God's law is no trivial thing]

[2. The Moment one commits sin - knowingly or unknowingly - he or she is separated from God]

[3. They must then pay the price, in the lake of fire forever and ever.

So How many people have committed sin?

So therefore all people have to face the second death and all have to go to in the lake of fire…?

Can you pay the  sin of other people?

Or  Can I pay for your  sin? :

If it's that's god law how did the Lord Jesus pay sins for the others

it seems there's a violation of God's law so our question now is how did he do that how does he share our sin how did Christ then pay for the sins of others saving them from the horrific punishment

Unfortunately there's a lot of people who believe that they'll be forgiven for breaking their law by just praying to God okay lord please forgive me then press to automatically I'll be forgiven or maybe by doing good deeds I'll be forgiven having  a deep strong faith or then I will be forgiven 

changing my way of life well then I'll 

be forgiven

for my sins God will forgive me
God is very nice
we have to remember 

because of the sin that was committed that's why I told you to remember that  

what happened because of sin we separated from God we read Isaiah 59:2  : What did he say

I am NOT going to listen 

I'm not going to accept their worship 

-that's a horrific condition 

The forgiveness of sins:

The Bible did not say that the forgiveness of sins is by being a good deed doer sins will be forgiven by being  a nice guy sins will be forgiven by praying or doing this or doing that that's maybe nice things that true servants of God do

but those are not the things that bring about the forgiveness of sin but what is shedding of blood that's the way that's the only way that sins are forgiven nobody can change that that's a biblical through this at all 

BUT it's not just anyone's blood that can be poured out and then sins are forgiven whose blood whose blood only will bring about the the forgiveness of sins 

what specifically did Christ's pouring out of his blood do? who did he shed his blood  for? who benefited from the sacrificial death of our Lord Jesus Christ? what did Christ pay for with his blood ?

The church is the people so how did Jesus then die for the church and so for their sins. the 

sin of the people without violating that law of God we don't accuse him of  violating that Christ did so by creating something with the church so that the sins of those in his church would be considered as his own therefore allowing him to pay for the sins without violating God's righteous law this is so create then with his church to accomplish that what did he do what did he create with his church.

Christ said he created in himself from the two one new man

God does not view Christ and the Church of Christ now as separate.

He views them now together as just one how is it how is that that Christ and His Church make up just one new man we read this verse .

The two are no longer two in the eyes of god.

He see a one new man.

The body the church being composed of people  that commit sin (all people)

He's the only one that's allowed to pay for the sins of those who are inside his body he's answering for the sins of his very own body suppose someone would say 

"I'm not interested in any of that I'm expecting that Jesus is going to answer for my sins too because well I believe in him even though I'm outside of the body the Church of Christ"

what are they  actually trying to make Jesus do they're trying to make him violate the law of God right.

Jesus won't do that he will answer for the sins of his body only and that body is his church the Church of Christ if he were to pay b the sins of those who are outside of his body outside of his church then that would go against God's law and he will not do that

Why is forgiveness of sins and being saved only possible and the condition of being in the body of Christ his church isn't Jesus the savior for all people doesn't he have the authority over anyone and everyone

that's always what people say and it's so nice to hear but it's not biblical it's not biblical 

Genesis 3:15 who is the woman?

 

Why Woman in Gen 3:15 called Zion:

In the next verse of Gen 3:15 Eve is the woman 👉"with painful labor"

Zion symbolizes the woman (Eve) in Gen 3:15,16

which is:

Isaiah 66:7-8

Before she goes into labor, she gives birth; before the 👉pains come upon her, she delivers a son

Who has ever heard of such things? Who has ever seen things like this? Can a country be born in a day or a nation be brought forth in a moment? Yet no sooner is 👉Zion in labor than she gives birth to her children

Genesis 3:16

To the woman he said, “I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.”

Before she goes into labor, she gives birth; before the 👉pains come upon her, she delivers a son 

Galatians 4:26

but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all.

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Heb 1:13  But to which of the angels has He ever said, “Sit at My right hand, until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet”? 

Rom 16:20 And the God of peace will crush Satan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.

2 Peter 1:1,11 Dr. James White vs Bro. Joe Ventilacion - Who Is God? - Trinity Debate

Dr. James White vs Bro. Joe Ventilacion - Who Is God? - Trinity Debate Dr. James White of Alpha & Omega Ministries debates Bro. Joe Ventilacion of Iglesia ni Cristo.

This event was held in Rapid City, SD, in the Best Western Ramkota Convention Center at 6PM MST, on April 21st, 2017.

In Dr. White's cross examination of Bro. Joe Ventilacion on 2 Peter 1:1, 11

2 Peter 1:1

Simon Peter, a bondservant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ:

2 Peter 1:11

and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

2 Peter 1:1b: "our God and Savior Jesus Christ τοῦ θεοῦ ἡμῶν καὶ σωτῆρος Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ

2 Peter 1:11b "our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ" τοῦ κυρίου ἡμῶν καὶ σωτῆρος Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ Dr. White Argument If both "Lord" and "Savior" apply to one person, the Son, in v.11 then "God" and "Savior" must also refer to one person, the Son. and Bro. Joe Ventilacion response, "We do not base. we do not base our doctrine or our teaching in the Church of Christ simply by means of grammar"

Brother Joe said so for you to understand this - 1st Corinthians 2:13 says you have to "compare spiritual things with spiritual" you do not make a theology on one single verse.

Let's Compare it Spiritually:

 👉Peter concludes: he made throughout the speech: 'God' has made Jesus is Lord and Christ (Acts 2:36), and Savior (Acts 5:31)

 👉 2 Peter 1:2 

Grace and peace be yours in abundance through the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord. 

In 2 Peter 1:2 who is the "God" in this verse? Let us answer it based on 1 Cor 2:13 "compare spiritual things with spiritual" Apostle Paul and other apostles begins each of their letters with some variation of the greeting “grace and peace.” :


2 Jn 1:3  Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the  Son of the Father, in truth and love. 

1Co 1:3  Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

2Co 1:2  Grace be to you and peace from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

Gal 1:3  Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,

Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

Php 1:2  Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.

Rom 1:7  To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

1Pe 1:2  Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.


Every apostles letters begins, greeting “grace and peace” and the God always refers to God the Father

therefore 2 Peter 1:1b, 2: "our God and Savior Jesus Christ" - the 'God' refers to God the Father

Every apostles have perfectly united in mind and thought - even in their letters & greetings

1 Corinthians 1:10

I appeal to you, brothers and sisters, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought.

Why is the official name of the true church in the Bible "Church of Christ"?

Why are there so many 'Churches' mentioned in the Bible? :

"Church of Galatia" (Gal.1: 2)

"Church of Macedonia" (2 Cor.8: 1)

"Church of the Gentiles" (Romans 16:14)

"Church of God in Corinth" (1 Cor.1: 2)

"Church in Antioch" (Acts 13: 1)

"Church in Jerusalem" (Acts 8: 1)

And much more. All of this refers not to the whole Church established by Christ, but to the locals or places reached by the Church of Christ in the time of the apostles.

In fact, it is not appropriate to call the "CHURCH OF THE GENTILES" the Jews who became members of the Church. Likewise, it is not appropriate for the Church in Jerusalem to be called the "Church of Macedonia". But it is appropriate to call the members of the Church established by Christ wherever they are called the  Church of Christ (Romans 16:16).

Romans 16:16

"Greet one another with a holy kiss. All the churches of Christ send greetings."

the churches of Christ in Romans 16:16 is GENERALIZED in to all Churches. Why?
Paul the Apostle who wrote Romans, who called to everyone / to all churches - send greetings.
therefore it makes the scope in GENERAL thus It provides an 'official name'.

Name is important

Acts 4:12

Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved. 

Church of God or Church of Christ?

"Church of God."

"This term is used ten times in the New Testament, and its only use by Apostle Paul. It is important that he often used it when speaking to Gentile Christians.

Six of these instances are in the letter. Corinthians.

The Corinthian Christians were in the midst of other disgusting idolatry. They themselves, at first, were misled by the stupid idol. (1Cor.12: 2)

"They must now remember God as they are. He has appointed them ..."
(cf. The Church In The Bible, pp.349-350)

Remember: Before they became with God or the Church of God, firstly God ordered them to become in Christ or the CHURCH OF CHRIST..

Is it difficult to confirm if people are with God if they are not with Christ? the answer is obviously Yes. You can't be with God without the mediator - "Jesus Christ"

Living in the absence of God, the people who are separated from Christ, this is the situation of people before they became the body of Christ or Church of Christ

Ephesians 2:12

remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world.

So how can a man be with God if he is separated from Christ. The Bible says .. They used to live without God.

Who is with Christ? :

Members of the Body of Christ follow Christ as their Head (Ephesians 1:22-23).

22 And he put all things under his feet and gave him as head over all things to the church,

23 which is his body, the fullness of him who fills all in all.

Church of Christ :

Ephesians 5:31-32

31 For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.

32 This is a profound mystery--but I am talking about Christ and the church.

Isn't that true that what God unites should not be separated?

Such is the mystery of Christ's relationship to the Church as compared to the husband and wife who became one FLESH.

So in order for a person to have a relationship with Christ and not be separated from him he must enter his body or his Church.

Because if a person is separate from Christ or his Church he lives without God in this world.

There is no Difference between Church of God or Church of Christ. :

John 17:9-10

9 I pray for them. I am not praying for the world, but for those you have given me, for they are yours.

10 And all Mine are Yours, and Yours are Mine, and I am glorified in them.

 ..And all Mine are Yours, and Yours are Mine,..

For God to be with you, you must be in the body of Christ or the Church of Christ.

Is Jesus will reign on Earth for a thousand years?

Eli Soriano known for the leader of Ang Dating Daan.

His Eschatology - his doctrine of the last things said:

Jesus will reign on 🌎Earth for a thousand years after the rapture and in 1000 years on Earth Jesus Christ will be doing preaching for those who people was not believed in him.

[This is a delusive & also a false doctrine of Eli Soriano]

WHY?

👉in Revelation 20:1-6 there's no mention of an earthly reign of Christ. 

👉in Hebrew 8:1 -..We do have such a high priest, who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven,

 

What does that tell us? 

Christ's throne is in Heaven, not on earth.

👉following Hebrew 8:4 - For if He were on earth, He would not be a priest...

  

if he were on the earth, he could not be a priest

👉 Zechariah 6:13 - Yes, He shall build the temple of the LORD. He shall bear the glory, And shall sit and rule on His throne; So He shall be a #priest on His #throne, ...

Zechariah 6:13 tells us that Christ will be a priest on His throne.

Now, when you put all of this together, what do you get?

🥊1. Christ is a priest - Hebrews 8:1

🥊2. While a priest, he will be on his throne - Zechariah 6:13

🥊3.  If he were on the earth, he could not be a priest - Hebrew 8:4.

👨‍⚖️ So the conclusion : Christ's throne is not on this earth.

Logically, it cannot be the case that Christ will have a throne on this earth. 

And we have also conclude Soriano's Eschatology is False, Erroneous and deceptive.

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The Millennium of Rev. 20 

1)When Christ return (2nd Coming), His angels will slay the wicked living and bind them in bundles to burn 🔥 them (Mt. 13:24-30, 36-43);

2) Then, the dead "in Christ" will be resurrected in glorified bodies (1 Thes. 4:13-18); 

3) Then, the living Saints will be changed to their glorified bodies (1 Cor. 15:50-55); 

4) Then, all the Saints of Christ will go up to meet the Lord in the air (1 Thes. 4:13-18) into heaven where Christ has "many dwelling places/mansions" prepared for them (Jn. 14:1-4).

This begins the Millennium of Rev. 20.  

During the Millennium: 

1) Satan is "bound" on a desolate earth; the wicked are all dead, and Satan and his angels will have no one to deceive; 

2) After the 1,000 year reign of Christ and His Saints in HEAVEN. Then the Heavenly city (the "New Jerusalem"), coming down out of heaven;  (Rev 21:2)

3) The wicked will be resurrected, and Satan will go out to deceive them once more; 

4) The wicked will attempt to "surround the camp of the saints, the beloved city" (Rev. 20:9); 

(the beloved city - Hebrew 12:22-23 , Heb 11:16)

Heb 12:22-23 (The Remedy New Testament)

   22 But you have come into the reality (of which the symbols only pointed to), to Mount Zion, the New    Jerusalem the heavenly city of the living God — and you are part of that city. You have come to join     millions upon millions of angels rejoicing in God's presence,

    23 into the heavenly sanctuary the true church of Christ whose identities are stored in heaven. You        have come to God the source and standard of righteousness for all people; to the archived                      individualities of righteous human beings perfectly restored into Christlikeness of character;

the beloved city is pointing to the Mount Zion, The New Jerusalem (Rev 3:12)

5) God will judge and destroy them all by FIRE.  

Very simple. 

The caught up (1 Thes 4:17 , Cor 15:51-53) or best known as 'Rapture'  --  THE RAPTURE and the 2ND ADVENT are the SAME EVENT!  

They are NOT two, temporally separate events.